Ranking Lance Stroll

Greetings followers of Sidepodcast ! Jordan F1 here with an interesting story on the current Canadian Driver at Williams. I was planning to get this done a while ago but a slight problem occurred here in Tundraland…Namely the local (ice) Hockey Team – the Montreal Canadiens entered the playoffs and currently split the series  2 games apiece in a best of seven series over the New York Rangers. I give everyone in the Sidepodcast Nation fair warning that should the Canadiens go into the final round, well, they would still be playing Hockey at the same time as the Canadian GP, so except traffic to be crazier than normal…

So after three races, just how good is Williams’ new Canadian Driver, Lance Stroll ? Well, I have decided to rate him against all the F1 results of all the Canadian F1 drivers to find out. And guess what? In terms of results he’s better than Jacques Villeneuve !!!

No, I am not talking about the 1997 Champion here but his uncle, Jacques-Joseph Villeneuve who in 1981, drove the Arrows A3 at the Canadian and Caesar’s Palace Grand Prix. He also drove a RAM-March 01 at the 1983 Canadian Grand Prix. Back in the early 80’s The qualifying sessions actually meant something. Sure, they where used to determine the starting gird, the fastest of the driver’s laps being used to set the grid, but with 30 cars competing for 24 gird spots, 6 cars would be given a DNQ. Villeneuve’s Arrows in qualifying at Canada ranked 28th place, 7.518 seconds off pole. It was the same result at Caesar’s Palace – 28th place, 5.001 seconds of pole, and DNQ’ed. The change to RAM in 1983 did not help, although the grid was enlarged to 26 slots, Villeneuve got 27th place, 6.404 seconds from pole. Uncle Jacques got a grand total of 3 DNQ’s.

I am going to introduce something I call the “Villeneuve Penalty” here to make my life a little bit easier. With the possible exception of Berg, all the drivers not in the Villeneuve family raced under the points going down to 6th place and only your top x results counted per season. What also sort of magnifies this problem is that most Canadian F1 drivers took part in the classic years from 1961 – 1974, so you can basically rattle off 3,4,5 or 6 Legends of F1 who’s car needs to break down before anyone else can pick up a point… What I am going to do is score the non-Villeneuves under the present scoring system just to see if anyone ended a race in positions 7 to 10. Also remember that the Canadian Grand Prix has been held at Multiple venues. It was originally at Mosport Park from 1961 to 1967, 1969, and from 1971-1977; Circuit Mont-Tremblant held the Grand Prix in 1968 and 1970, and Saltire’s favourite circuit Circuit Ile Notre-Dame currently holds it from 1971 (barring a painted on scroll at the start/finish line and a renaming of the course…)

Peter B. Ryan entered a privateer Lotus 18/21 for the 1961 GP and crossed the finish line in 9th place, some 4 laps done from race winner Innes Ireland. As a side note 7th place went to Jim Clark also 4 laps done to Ireland The result was good enough for 0 points back and tied in 18th place in the World Drivers Championship. But using present scoring regulations he would have 2 points.

In 1963 an all-Canadian F1 team was formed and called Stebro and raced at Watkins Glen with a Formula Junior car and a Ford engine. Development problems meant that only one car could race with a borrowed Ford engine thus the DNP to 2nd Driver Ernie de Vos, but Peter Broeker did take the only Stebro to a 7th place finish, all be it some 22 laps down. Under today’s present scoring system, it is questionable as to whether Broeker does get 6 points or a NC result. I gave him the points.

Al Pearce – Drove 47 laps to gain a Not classified rating in 1967, being some 43 laps down on winner Jack Braham. Apparently the battery was dead on the grid and his mechanics had to change the battery, which cost Al about 6 laps. Once he started the race, He spun on the part of the track that is furthest from the pits, and could not start the car as his battery was dead (of the engine was waterlogged) take your pick as there was heavy rain tht day. So he ran the lengh of the track to get a battery, runs back to his car, replaces the battery himself and rejoins the race some 43 laps down…Which is how you can get a “NC” rating and have other cars ahead of you retire.

His DNS happened at Tremblat, Where he was 15.8 seconds off pole and dead last. Al stripped his engine overnight, found a tool jammed in the engine, but the could not rebuild the engine in time for the race to begin.

Finally we come to his most famous incident he appears to be the only F1 driver who was actually disqualified from a race for driving to slow !! How slow is too slow, you ask> Well at the 69 Grand Prix, he was on his 22nd lap when he was disqualified, the problem was that the leaders were on their 46th lap. This breaks down to being some 20 seconds per lap down on the leaders, taking into account that his two pit stops up to that time took 15 minutes and 10 minutes a piece ! Worst of all, he was fighting all the cars that where trying to pass him, regardless of how many laps ahead they where…After a very questionable block nearly took Jackie Stewart out of the race, Ken Tyrrell launched a formal complaint and had Pearce disqualified.

Eppie Wietzes – Was driving a factory Lotus Ford 49 alongside Clark and Graham Hill in the ’67 Grand Prix and managed to get up lap 69 when he suffered ignition failure due to the torrential rain that was coming down. Oddly enough Clark himself suffered the same problem further up the track and retired 12th. Poor Wietzes got disqualified for trying to get outside help to fix his engine. He then took a Braham-Ford to Mosport in ’74. Sadly, on lap 33 he was the 2nd retirement of the day due to engine troubles.

Bill Brack raced in three Canadian Grand Prix in ’68. 69, and 72. In 1968 he drove as a third driver for Lotus. But on the 18th lap he suffered a halfshalf failure and retired. In 1968, he drove for BRM and needed to have been fast enough to complete just one more lap to gain a classification of a 8th place finish. As it was, completing only 80 of an 90 lap race meant that you did not race enough of a distance to earn points. Therefore he was classified with a NC rating. In 1972 he spun his BRM out of the race in his 20th lap.

John Cordts – Entered a Privateer Braham in the 1969 Canadian Grand Prix but had to retire his car after 10 laps due to an oil leak. He was running 16th at the time, however, he was the fourth retirement of the race. But hey, Denny Hulme only lasted 9 laps of that race…

George Eaton – Raced in two GP’s in 1969, ten in 1970, and in the 1971 Canadian GP., all with the works BRM team. At Mont-Tremblant he had his highest finish in any Grand Prix, a 10th place placed finish some 5 laps down, which under today’s F1 point system would have gained him 1 point. He also gained a 11th and 12th placed finishes in their P153 and a 15th place in a 1971 P160. His remaining results where a mixture of DNQ’s and retirements.

John Cannon – Had enough strong races in the 1971 F1 European Championship series, impressing the people at BRM enough to run at Wakins Glen that year, where he came in 14th place and some 3 laps down. Even more bad news for him was that he was second last of the cars still running at the end of the race. Well, at least he beat John Surtess, who was some 5 laps down., so there’s that….

Allen Berg – Ahhhh, the utter awesomeness that was the 1986 Osella F1 car !!! Tied 2oth place with 0 points for the season. Berg landed this spot in mid season as Christian Danner was sent of to replace Arrows driver who injured himself outside of F1.

Gilles Villeneuve – 6 wins, 2nd place in the World Driver’s Championship in 1979, Grand Prix and Ferrari Driver Legend., 101 officially recognized points, 107 actual points scored. Not to mention his never say die attitude of driving blind in the rain because the car’s nose is broken and his shoved upwards at Ille Notre-Dame, in 1981, (He got 3rd place in that one) or racing his car back to the pits on only three wheels because not only has the left rear tyre exploded just after the pit entrance but he managed to break the axle by the time he was able to return to the pits on the next lap. And then there is always Dijon ’79 Where I am still asking who won because the winner’s race was just as forgettable as the wheel-banging battle between Villeneuve and Arnoux.

Jacques Joseph Charles Villeneuve – Currently Canada’s only World Championship Driver with 11 wins under his belt. 235 points over his career, and has some highlights of his own. First off, he was one oil leak away from being only the 2nd F1 driver to ever win his debute F1 driver, The pass on Schumacher on the outside at the Parabolica curve in Estroil in 1996, and finally the dive on Schumacher at Jerez for the 1997 Championship. The bad news for Jacques, Jr. was he stuck around F1 too long in lousy cars…

So obviously Gilles Villeneuve and Jacques Villeneuves, (Jr) are Canada’s numbers 1 and 2 F1 drivers, and all things considered, I would say that is the proper ranking between the two of them, and using today’s race results rankings Broeker, Ryan and Eaton would follow for their 6, 2 and 1 point career point totals respectfully. Berg is next for hauling an Osella, of all things to a 12th place finish, then Cannon for completing his race in 14th.

For the bunch that have never finished a race yet, and sadly I have to include Stroll in this group, Uncle Jacques Villeneuve has to be the worst, as he never even crossed the start line of a race, followed by Pease for not even crossing the start line once, the disqualification, Brack for two retirements, and although though no fault in his own at Bahrain, Stroll is between Brack and Pease. Finally the best of the worst are Wietzes and Cordts. I refused to rate De Vos, as since he did not have a car and was not even able to Practice, he was a much as a spectator as those of us who paid admission to see a Canadian Grand Prix.

In table format, from best to worst, are Jordan F1’s rankings of all Canadian F1 drivers:

Rank Driver Team (s) Year (s) Active Races Decent Placements Points
1 Gilles Villeneuve McLaren, Ferrari 1977-1982 68 6 wins 101
2 Jacques (Jr) Villeneuve Various teams 1996-2006 165 11 wins 235
3 Peter Broeker Canadian Strebro Racing 1963 1 7th 0 (6 pts)
4 Peter Ryan J. Wheeler Autosport 1961 1 9th 0 (2 pts)
5 George Eaton BRM 1969-1971 13 10th, 11th, 12th, 15h 0 (1 pt)
6 Allen Berg Osella 1986 9 12th, 13th, 16th , NC 0 pts.
7 John Cannon BRM 1971 1 14th 0 pts
8 John Cordts Brabham 1969 1 Ret 0 pts.
9 Eppie Wietzes Lotus, Brabham 1967, 1974 2 DSQ, Ret 0 pts
10 Bill Brack Lotus/BRM 1968-1969,1972 3 2x Ret, 1 NC 0 pts.
11 Lance Stroll Williams Current 3 3x Ret 0 pts
12 Al Pease Eagle 1967-169 3 NC,DNS, DSQ 0 pts
13 Jacques Villeneuve Arrows / RAM 1981, 1983 3 3x DNS 0 pts
Ernie de Vos Canadian Stebro 1963 1 DNQ 0 pts

So there you go.  All 14 of Canada’s fourteen F1 drivers ranked in order from best to worst on the basis of their F1 results.  If you wish, you can make comments longer than 140 characters, I the meantime I bid you adieu and Go Habs Go !


Plans for 2014.

I must say that I have been pretty hopeless last year in doing my resolutions so there are times where one should just sit back re-evaluate and try something easier. The only thing that I completed from the resolutions was to see the 2013 Hamilton Air Show.

This year I have few plans of what I want to do this year and I hope to accomplish them. Here’s the important stuff:

1) Keep the current job that I have.

2) Get a passport. I want to do this last year, but I think a new password that is good for 10 years has been finally cleared for public use.

3) See the 2014 Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal and make it a sidepodcast Vacation.

Followed by the nice to do stuff.

4) Head off to the Toronto Metro Zoo to see the Giant Pandas there.

5) See the new Aquarium that Toronto has.

6) Go on 12 hikes this year.

7) Do 20 dives this year.

8) Be part of a Sidepodcast Radio show, if there is one this year.

On the model front, I have a couple of ideas to play with. Details may be revealed in my models section of the blog called “Conversion Corner”.

9) 10 miniatures a week, for a yearly total of 520 figures.

10) A diorama called “At the Crease, vs. the Habs”

11) Make a conversion model using an Airfix Anne Boleyn model figure

So those are my plans for 2014, what’s yours?

The return of the Resolutions.

Greetings  everyone, belated Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year in 2013 and finally,  welcome to my little corner of the web.  Over the course of the year I mean to fix up this site and get it back and going the way I would like too.  Sorry for the lack of material over the past year but work has kept me a little bit busier than expected last year and hopefully I can arrange a better balance between the two. 

Back in 2011, I made a list of of New Year’s Resolutions, and I think I will bring that back for this year.  I would like to make a list of ten resolutions this year but so far I only have five.  Would any of  you care to give me a hand as I only have nine?

  1. Go to the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal this year.
  2. paint 365 miniatures to 3rd Generation specs, (buttons in the right places).
  3. Complete 15 dives this year.
  4. End the year at a less weight than I started this year.
  5. Go on at least 12 hikes this year.
  6. obtain more certifications than I have started with this year.
  7. Complete one post on this blog per week.
  8. Go to the Hamilton Air Show  this year as a DH Mosquito is flying in it.
  9. Replace my passport.
  10. ? ? ?


Well I guess that’s it for my first blog post of 2013.  51 more to go.  Please be nice on the suggestions for the tenth resolution, as not only would I like to see 2014, I want to see if NYC has a back to back Grand Prix with Montreal, and I want to see both of them in person.

Welcome to Bakajima, the Desert Island of Jordan F1.

A while ago Lukeh of Gridwalk Talk rehashed the concept of the BBC’s Desert Island Discs of music and gave it a F1 related spin.  He then asked us to respond to his question and here is my reply.

Desert Island Drivers

You can take 8 videos of classic races with you to watch (there is a TV built into a tree, of course. And yes, it has HD.)

You can take one Formula 1 personality with you to keep you company (no funny business, now.)

You can take one luxury Formula 1 car to… stare at I guess (aerodynamics works in sand and jungles, right?)

Fair rules, right? I won’t even take you away under race stewards review, or anything. Anyways I implore that you all take a good think about this and post below, let me know what your choices would be! Even better, if you have a blog why not blog about you choices and go into further detail? It’ll be a fabulous opportunity to get plenty of F1 bloggers involved and see what we come up with. I’m gonna come back with a new post in a few days with my choices as, quite frankly, I’m still enjoying that banana and in no state to go including my choices so suddenly. These things take thought and I don’t want to go getting black flagged for poor choices.

Now get your thinking caps on and let me know what would be on your Desert Island Drivers list!

Welcome to Jordan F1’s Desert Island of Bakajima  I know that the Letter “B” is beside the letter “N” on a normal “QWERTY” keyboard.  But “Bakajima” is no mistake.  It means “Fool’s Island” in Japanese and it is the southern-most island of the Atoll known as Bikini.  So when it comes to “Funny Business” you are a little late here….As an example we seem to get aurora borealis or St. Elmo’s Fire every night but without any need for the pre-conditions of those natural occurences being forecasted.  More strangely, there was no known occurences before 1946.  Funny Business indeed.  But that’s beside the point.

When I first thought about my idea of who/what would accompany me to this Desert Island a sacrificial thought entered my mind to drag along Pastor Maldonado with me as that way we would not crash into another else or the walls or curbs and generally not ruin anyone else’s Grand Prix.

However there also a dream F1 car on this Island, so what is to stop Maldonado from crashing the car into the tree that supports the T.V. toppling the tree over and causing the screen to shatter as it hits the only rock on the island?  After all, this is Maldonado we are talking about…..

So Maldonado may not be such a great idea.  As the personality invited has to be a F1 personality and no “funny business” is allowed I seem to be stuck.  Hmmmm, maybe I could drag the gal along but the way things are going at the moment It looks like I have to be involved in some way with F1……maybe I should drive an F1 car under an assumed name that the Americans can easily pronounce like Jord  Vill-neuf or Jord New-town ?

So my F1 Personality that I would being along would be  Gerhard Berger!  Oh the practical jokes we will pull on each other is just going to be insane…..

The dream F1 Car:

Since I would like some method of roaming on or around the island in question a F1 car that can double as a boat would be needed…. so:

Either the all-conquering Williams FW14B it is so omnipotent that I bet it can walk (well roll) on water…..


A Ferrari 126C as it handled like a boat.  Who knows, maybe it might even float?  Although I would strip the ballast weights and strap my scuba tanks to the sidepods – just in case it goes under faster than Villeneuve’s 1980 title hopes…..

Video clips of classic races:

And here are my eight classic F1 races to watch on the HD TV, as a bonus, I found clips of actual race footage on Youtube for seven of the eight races.  Please note that there is no way I can order these eight Grand Prix in any certainty. I am pretty sure that four of my classics are on every else’s classic list but here they are anyway:

1)  The closest F1 race ever. The 1971 Italian Grand Prix at Monza.

2)  Spain 1981 at Jarama – The precursor to the Ultimate Trulli Train.   “They shall not pass Gilles – All four of them!”

3)  1995 Canadian Grand prix.  The #27 Ferrari wins again.  But who’s driving it?

4)  1981 Canadian Grand prix – The awesomeness of CBC coverage back in its heyday.  Jack and Jill went up the hill to race in Montreal. Jack got DNQ and Jill got third with no nose ….  really!  Take us away race commentator Jackie Stewart!

5) Monza 1973 – Stewart unlaps the field for the Championship.  I wish I could find video for this race, but after a pit stop that took a minute, Stewart came out in  20th place and a lap down and was able to finish back on the lead lap in fourth place to secure his 1973 Driver’s championship.  JYS considered this his greatest race.

6) 1979 French Grand Prix.  Arnoux and Villeneuve battles for 2nd.

7)  The Pastor Maldonado of his day shows his best piece of work – Jody Scheckter’s only lap of the 1973 British Grand Prix   

8)  The Scottish Devil at the Green Hell.  JYS’s  Driving demonstration at the 1968 Nuerburgring There’s a 4 minute gap to second place.  Enough said.

….About that contest for unluckiest ever Dutch F1 driver…..

Greetings everyone!  First, my thanks to all that voted on my somewhat “mean” question on who do you think was the unluckiest Dutch F1 driver ever, and poor Jos “The Boss” Verstappen was the winner with surprisingly everyone else coming up tied in second with one vote each, including Ben Pon, who was not listed.

The reason for this silliness was that I have created a script for what I call a “Sidepodparodyfilm” and have sent it down to Rockall for approval.  I think I will use this as a “trailer” just to see what you guys think of a very minor sub-plot in the blog that still manages to have a couple of Giggles type links to various segments of the story in itself.  The winner of the contest would have had their name being added to the script.

Basically, the hero and heroine of the “movie” find a cursed artifact that is compared unfavourably by the hero to the legendary cursed ghost ship known as the “Flying Dutchman“.  In legend, the ship is supposed to attempt to round the Horn of Africa until the end of days and as such is an omen of doom.   (As an aside, I can not remember which one of those “Pirates of the Caribbean” movies used this as their basic sub-plot too.)  The Heroine, with her someone-inspired crush for underperforming Dutch F1 drivers declares her crush for Jos, believing him to be the fastest ever Dutchman in F1 (very possible) and hence worthy of the adjective “Flying” being added to his nationality.

See how unlucky Jos is?  Was not being Schuie’s teammate in Benetton bad enough?

Je cherche du Yaourt! I seek Yogurt! I seek Yoda!

And once again I am coming with an F1 related blog post for those wonderful people over at Sidepodcast, but this time I am going to spoof a very popular movie and alter it with a whole buch of racing (mostly F1) references.  But this time, I am going to need your help to determine a very small plot device that makes fun of teh F1 driver of your choice and connects back to the interests of the central character at the same time….

So who is the unluckiest Dutch F1 driver of all time?  I have made a poll for this, and you have four choices:

1)  Christijan Albers

2)  Robert Doornbos

3)  Jos Verstappen

4)  Other (please name)

For the fourth pick, please name a Dutch F1 driver.  I need a Dutch F1 driver for the joke to work.  (No, I will not accept Bertrand Baguette – he’s Belgian!)   

Here’s a link to the pole:   (If this pole does not work) please answer in the comments. )

Once I have my script worked out,  I will send it to Christine and mr. C  for their admusement.  Hopefully they will post it for all to see.

Come to Tundraland! We Have Marmots!, Otters!, Les Castors!, – The soon-to-be loaned Pandas!, a full TV Season of F1 Racing!.

 In F1 news, the big story during the offseason was that the BBC would only broadcast live 10 races for our friends in Sidepodcastland, with the other ten being broadcast via Sky Sports on some sort of premium charge.  Seeing how the local sports network – TSN uses the BBC’s coverage to broadcast F1 in Tundraland and the owners of Skysports also own America’s FoxSports network, I wondered how this decision would affect F1 broadcasting in Tundraland in 2012.

 It turns out not much!  To check the schedule, you can go to the TSN website..  TSN is still going to show both the Qualifying session and race session of each event, with the weirdest things occurring during the British and American Grand Prix – they are going to be on two separate channels! (TSN (1) and TSN2!)

 That the U.S. Grand Prix is on at 7:00 EST on TSN2 (hope you have a digital TV set) smacks to me of decision made by FoxSports to broadcast it live to those who will pay the special package to have it.  Of course, it is November so chances are TSN(1) just could be covering an unimportant Make-Beliefs Ice Hockey game….

 The British Grand Prix is also split, with the race itself on TSN2 live.  Not quite sure why this is the case as even with the Molson Indy in Toronto just being down the street from TSN’s headquarters they should be able to cover both events on the main channel.

 Finally, all of the sessions for the German and Hungarian Grand Prix will be broadcast live on TSN2.  For those that remember the U.S. Grand prix at Indy days, this too reminded me of the days where Foxsports broadcasted these events live for their viewers and then sold the tapes to TSN for later viewing.  

So what more can you ask for?  Visit Tundraland during the F1 season have access to see most of the F1 races live and your Saturday and Sunday afternoons are still availible for whatever else you want to do during the day….

 First interested party might get to set up shop for the duration of their visit to the Diefenbunker!  This Cold War Bunker was built to house the Canadian Government from Nuclear Attack.